Hmm, a vote among an infinite number of participants. Now there's an interesting mathematical concept. I wonder how they determine majority. It would also stand to reason that if there is any non-0 chance of any of the participant to delay their vote by an infinite time span, the vote could never finish, because an infinite number of participants would delay by such an infinite amount of time. A math is fun 😛

Of course, it stands to reason that, given some tolerance for equality, the number of sufficiently distinctive universes could be reduced to a finite number. Since it is quite reasonable for any of the infinite universes in one of these equality-classes to reach the exact same decision, one could use this mechanism to effectively reduce the complexity from infinity to finity, albeit to a very VERY large number…

Assuming the universe is not, in fact, infinite in its extend, and two assumed identical universes actually do reach the same conclusions.
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agreed. i don't know if the "infinite universe" model implies countably or uncountably infinte universes, but either way, regardless of the number or people voting in each group, the infinities will be equal.

Given the legendarium of the system so far, it might not really require a strict majority across all probabilities; just the net tendency of those probabilities whose variables significantly impact the Fuselli/Paradigm and her crew. Which we could believe might be those probabilities that it is a strong actor in. Alas Paradigm, and all of the other "okay" ships of science fiction.

I wonder what it says about me that the first thing that came to mind when I saw that machinery in the background of the moment of silence was that they were high-tech urinals. And that they were reminiscing in the bathroom.

That assumes some kind of ordering (otherwise you could take three odd numbers every time you take an even number and, while eventually covering all numbers, show that 75% of numbers are odd.)

You wouldn't need to determine which worlds are "first" or "earlier", but you would need to determine which worlds are "closer"–as in, starting from yourself and counting away from you, what does the proportion of votes approach as you count away from you?

Worse, you can't decide on an arbitrary notion of nearness, because other worlds might decide differently, and then we're back to the original problem–threre's just as many worlds using every possible "nearness" definition. There has to be some kind of *cosmologically best* notion of nearness–some reason that worlds using this method are more productive or otherwise stronger than worlds using some other method.

On the subject of reaching majority decisions in the voting: I would guess that the infinite universes reach some sort of quorum by discounting certain type-subsets. For instance (to paraphrase the Hitchhiker's Guide) if there's infinite universes, then there must be infinite uninhabited universes. Once you leave those out, you have less infinity to deal with…

Alright, so I'm not a mathematician, but the implication as presented is that infinity changes size and I'm workin' with what I've got in-universe(s).

Kris, man, wow, this strip has really turned some kinda corner. can't believe you were ever considering dropping it. So happy you didn't. Crazy good writing, pacing, humor…really has come together. Can't wait for the next one.

Wow, this explanation is far cleverer than my theory: Retribution.

I was picturing all of the alt-universe Fuseli instances that were exactly in the location they wanted to be and then suddenly, not.

Could it be that the cardinality of Holliday's theory doesn't work? It seems like no matter what, you'd have 2^N people voting on both sides.

If the probability of failure is less than 50%, then the number of 'For' votes would approach infinity at a greater rate?

So by thwarting the Directorate so completely, our heroes actually doomed themselves. Huh.

Presumably, if they can get back there alive, Lucifuge will have some more answers…

Goodbye, Paradigm… at least your destruction had one of those inexplicable shock wave rings.

Loving this story arc so far!

Fucking awesome, Kris!

Cantor's infinite sets FTW!

Hmm, a vote among an infinite number of participants. Now there's an interesting mathematical concept. I wonder how they determine majority. It would also stand to reason that if there is any non-0 chance of any of the participant to delay their vote by an infinite time span, the vote could never finish, because an infinite number of participants would delay by such an infinite amount of time. A math is fun 😛

Of course, it stands to reason that, given some tolerance for equality, the number of sufficiently distinctive universes could be reduced to a finite number. Since it is quite reasonable for any of the infinite universes in one of these equality-classes to reach the exact same decision, one could use this mechanism to effectively reduce the complexity from infinity to finity, albeit to a very VERY large number…

Assuming the universe is not, in fact, infinite in its extend, and two assumed identical universes actually do reach the same conclusions.

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How did they deduce all that. I don't see how she could have made those connections.

EVERYONE.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74BzSTQCl_c#t=8s

Oh man, there's a matching scene in 12 Oz. Mouse that suddenly makes a lot more sense to me.

It's hard to believe that a resurgence in swing dancing could have a major impact on events, but who knows?

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Okay, this is actually, genuinely, one of the best piees of Science fiction I've seen in years. Kudos, sir. Kudos.

agreed. i don't know if the "infinite universe" model implies countably or uncountably infinte universes, but either way, regardless of the number or people voting in each group, the infinities will be equal.

Would love to see the last panel in high resolution sans word balloons. Goodbye Paradigm.

Given the legendarium of the system so far, it might not really require a strict majority across all probabilities; just the net tendency of those probabilities whose variables significantly impact the Fuselli/Paradigm and her crew. Which we could believe might be those probabilities that it is a strong actor in. Alas Paradigm, and all of the other "okay" ships of science fiction.

I like that Jinx closes his alkaline blood sacks in solidarity.

FUSELIIIIIIIIIII

You could say that the Paradigm was…typical? *drumdrumcymbal*

I wonder what it says about me that the first thing that came to mind when I saw that machinery in the background of the moment of silence was that they were high-tech urinals. And that they were reminiscing in the bathroom.

Ha ha, those are supposed to be combat seats, with belts and everything to strap yourself in during an escape.

That assumes some kind of ordering (otherwise you could take three odd numbers every time you take an even number and, while eventually covering all numbers, show that 75% of numbers are odd.)

You wouldn't need to determine which worlds are "first" or "earlier", but you would need to determine which worlds are "closer"–as in, starting from yourself and counting away from you, what does the proportion of votes approach as you count away from you?

Worse, you can't decide on an arbitrary notion of nearness, because other worlds might decide differently, and then we're back to the original problem–threre's just as many worlds using every possible "nearness" definition. There has to be some kind of *cosmologically best* notion of nearness–some reason that worlds using this method are more productive or otherwise stronger than worlds using some other method.

On the subject of reaching majority decisions in the voting: I would guess that the infinite universes reach some sort of quorum by discounting certain type-subsets. For instance (to paraphrase the Hitchhiker's Guide) if there's infinite universes, then there must be infinite

uninhabiteduniverses. Once you leave those out, you have less infinity to deal with…Alright, so I'm not a mathematician, but the implication as presented is that infinity changes size and I'm workin' with what I've got in-universe(s).

Kris, man, wow, this strip has really turned some kinda corner. can't believe you were ever considering dropping it. So happy you didn't. Crazy good writing, pacing, humor…really has come together. Can't wait for the next one.

"can't believe you were ever considering dropping it. So happy you didn't."

Oh man someone break it to him gently.

I'll try to break this to you gently:

These strips are Kris in the long, elaborate act of dropping it.

Can we go gentler? Just a little bit?

Oh, all right: Fuseli, with one ell.

Just quietly, it's good to see some of the old guard are still around.

I miss the forums*.

*certain aspects, at least.

Oh man, just when you thought that Quine couldn't be more of tool. "Trust in the system!"

I feel like some inspiration for Quine came from Paul Reiser's character in Aliens.

Quine's first name revealed! And that was the final secret. Starslip over. 😉

hijack fuseli!

to be honest I saw that one from a mile away

Spacejack the Fuseli? Now we're in JJ Abrams territory! Where's the green girl?

At some point vanderbeam needs to say a vanderbeamy type version of the Lethal Weapon line.

I'm getting to old for this … shenanigan-ing

And the fuseli returns! YYYYYYEEEEESSSSSSS

I space-propose to space-jack the space-fuseli

Brilliant! Lovin this arc more and more

Hold onto your hats, we're headed for a season finale! Woo!

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